wha!? Sl BAPU BAPTIST CHURH SUS DISGUST MyCHILD Dortyouatti? SaSin!God condemns W all! BRIAN heed to have a talk 0 CHRISTIANS CELEBRATE TH ISLAMIC TEMPUE I didnt die ona Cross for this BS RADICAL righte homoSexvality ar the last 2000 yearsold prismatic-bell the-spoopy-ghost-of-raejin99 prismatic-bell broken-bits-of-dreams prismatic-bell aiko-mori-hates-pedos artbymoga Throwback to all these Jesus comics I drew in 2012… Good post OP Good post OP and if you ever decide to do another may I please suggest “NOT IN HEBREW IT DOESN’T” as a punchline? So much of the Old Testament is HORRIFICALLY translated from the Tanakh it drives me batty WAIT WAIT WHAT DOES IT SAY?????? I NEED TO LIKE DESTROY MI MUM FOR BEING REALLY HOMOPHOBIC Okay so strictly speaking the infamous Leviticus 1822 does say “forbidden” Here’s the thing 1 The word translated as “forbidden” is “toevah” While that translation isn’t … wrong it’s sort of like saying “McMansion” means “really big house” There are a lot of connotations in that word The specific issue with toevah is that we … sort of … don’t know anymore exactly what it meant Based on context it seems likely that the word referred to something ritually forbidden This part of Torah was written not only as a guide for future generations but also to say “so look around see your neighbors? DON’T DO THAT“ Thus if we interpret “toevah” to mean something that’s forbidden to do as a ritual before G-d then the verse says nothing whatsoever about Adam and Steve and their two kids and their dog–it’s saying you shouldn’t have sex with another man in the Temple as a sacrifice 2 Following the same “this is ritually forbidden” logic of toevah this verse may also be interpreted as “don’t do sex magic” which was a thing in Like A lot of fucking cultures at the time 3 Hebrew is a highly gendered language and the grammatical gender in this verse is really really weird One of the “men” in this verse is given female grammar Why? Who fucking knows man this isn’t the only grammatical oddity in Torah There are also places where G-d is referred to as plural and also as female One suggestion is that this is a way of creating a diminutive–that is that the verse should be read as “a man should not lie with a boy” Now it’s worth noting that modern secular scholarship has concluded the written Torah was written down around the 6th century BCE and most non-Orthodox Jewish scholars are like “yeah all things considered that sounds pretty legit” Do you know what else was happening around the 6th century BCE? What laypeople tend to mean when they say “ancient Greece” was happening Do you know what happened a lot in that time period in Greece? Dudes forming relationships with younger boys like ages 10-15 and using them for sex in exchange for financial gifts mentorship etc While we don’t know just how young some of these younger boys may have been we do know some were prepubescent In light of this and also something I mentioned under the first point–”see your neighbors? DON’T DO THAT” if this verse is interpreted to say “a man should not lie with a boy” then it’s pretty clearly “my dudes my fellows my lads don’t be fucking pedophiles” 4 Because of the grammar I mentioned in #3 it’s also possible that “should not lie with a man as with a woman” is actually referring to a place not an abstract personhood a man shouldn’t have sex with another man in a woman’s bed In the time period a woman’s bed was sort of like–that was her place her safe sanctuary It was also a ritually holy place where babies were made By having sex in her bed you’re violating her safe space and also introducing a man who may not be a male relative thus forcing her into breaking the laws of modesty If this verse is read this way then it should be taken to mean “don’t sexually violate a woman’s safety and modesty”5 And as an offshoot of #4 this may be a second verse relating to infidelity Which woman’s bed is any random dude in 600 BCE most likely to have access to? His wife’s But laws were administered differently based on whether the person they pertained to was slave or free male or female and so on–thus a man committing adultery with a woman would be treated differently than man committing adultery with a man especially because the latter would carry no chance of an illegitimate pregnancy So you’ll note there are a lot of ways to read this verse and only a one-to-one translation with no cultural awareness produces “being gay is wrong all of the time”You’ll also notice the word “abomination” is nowhere to be found That’s like … a straight-up fiction created for who only knows what reason Apparently tumblr mobile doesn’t want to show @prismatic-bell ’s long and in-depth essay so here’s the screenshots because it still shows up on mobile browsers Much appreciated Meme

apparently

dude

Fucking

Future

God

Jesus

Logic

period

Relationships

Sex

Taken

Target

tumblr

weird

Access

Blog

Cross

Free

Ghost

Good

Greece

House

Http

Kids

Magic

Mean

Mobile

Neighbors

Okay

Pregnancy

Space

Time

Translation

What Does

Word

Screenshots

Jewish

Wife

Old

Dreams

Fiction

Infamous

Modesty

Reason

Comics

All of The

Been

Blank

boy

boys

how

media

the thing

another

orthodox

her

gender

Dog

random

punchline

creating a

com

depth

data

gay

class

light

sanctuary

who

big

language

baptist

one

img

bell

hebrew

testament

down

torah

following

adam

may

etc

man

legit

grammar

safe

don

guide

means

why

jpg

leviticus

sacrifice

babies

woman

them

all

first

exchange

old testament

bce

steve

they

thing

slave

you

modern

src

abstract

now

show

person

lie

the time

chance

note

post

what

secular

creating

still

ritual

made

for

div

context

adultery

brian

breaking

islamic

aiko

issue

href

straight

about adam

happening

verse

look

using

tanakh

read

this

sus

really

please

like

this is

bed

nothing

do you

female

full

homophobic

adam and steve

younger

just

wha

what happened

celebrate

then

possible

because

exactly

having sex

broken

wait

throwback

really really

happened

tmblr

saying

seems

violate

wait what

much appreciated

have sex

strictly

latter

pretty

infidelity

same

disgust

their

ever

radical

heed

nowhere

thus

destroy

big house

based

were

there

grammatical

connotations

ona

relative

orig

century

you know what

scholarship

ar

no

gifts

something

see

things

die

way

worth

need

know

want

place

wrong

say

much

anymore

around

else

so much

two

npf

male

drew

lads

hates

essay

batty

no chance

tumblr blog

appreciated

point

personhood

pretty legit

safe space

young

talk

And

You Know

Here

Safety

Spoopy

All These

Height

When

Forbidden

A Lot

Actually

Holy

That

But

Not

Last

Where

In Class

Financial

Christians

The

The First

I Need

The Word

Long

From

This Is A

Your

That Word

Part

Look Around

Spoopy Ghost

Really Weird

Prepubescent

Browsers

The Latter

Straight Up

Especially

Chur

These

While

Didnt

Dudes

Ways

Row

Know What

The Laws

Cultural

Was

With

Oddity

Future Generations

Mum

Found

In A

Laws

Should

Awareness

Are

Have

Sexually

Figure

Suggestion

Sounds

If You

Do You Know

Width

Also

Okay So

Img Src

A Href

What Else

Https

Temple

Which

Only

About

Does

Tumblr Com

Interpret

Diminutive

Has

Lot

Before

Meant

Being

Most

A Boy

They Say

Second

Decide

All Things

Differently

Than

Another Man

Generations

Introducing

Speaking

Says

Given

Knows

His

Some

Clearly

Whatsoever

Time Period

Scholars

Carry

It Was

Having

Whether

Illegitimate

Plural

Prismatic

Sort

Tend

The Same

6Th

A Man

A Woman

All Things Considered

And Also

Any

Boys Like

Concluded

Cultures

Didnt Die

Does It

Gay Is Wrong

Good Post

Have A

I Didnt

In Like

In The

Into

Is A

Is That

It Seems

Like A

May Be

Mori

My Lads

Non

Notice

Nowhere To Be Found

Of The Time

Pedophiles

Places

Post Op

Produces

Written

To Do

A Thing

All Of The Time

All Of

Ages

Because Of

Considered

First Point

Gendered

Highly

Holy Place

In Depth

In That

Is Nowhere To Be Found

Laypeople

Lie With

Likely

Mentorship

Most Likely

Offshoot

One To One

Referred

Should Be

Shows

Sort Of

Specific

Suggest

To Be

doesn

treated

the last

would

isn

g

says nothing

me

was a

d

my

created

say i

2

m

shouldn

drives

22

2012

do that

bits

that sounds

relating

carry no

would be

two kids

translated

something that

when they

under

at

knows what

we do

we don

may have

some of

know anymore

there are

shows up

have been

that time

fellows

h

may i

may not

exactly what

a

it

found @ 30 likes ON 2019-06-12 08:17:20 BY esmemes.com

source: tumblr